1 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:34,729 happy days are here again people 2 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:37,170 drinking my drink smoking my smoke and 3 00:00:41,210 --> 00:00:39,000 looking to shine the spotlight in one of 4 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:41,220 the many dark corners commonly glossed 5 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:43,800 over or ignored by many of us yet 6 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:45,450 featured prominently in the work of 7 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:47,790 today's guests we do come out pretty 8 00:00:50,690 --> 00:00:49,170 hard against the Red Cross and other 9 00:00:53,090 --> 00:00:50,700 charities that seemed to be nothing more 10 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:53,100 than front groups to siphon more wealth 11 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:54,930 from the masses and this is important 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:56,970 because when I see one guy like Stephen 13 00:01:01,310 --> 00:00:59,250 Colbert with a wave of his hand fund 14 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:01,320 every donation request from the schools 15 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:03,540 of North Carolina or see some of the 16 00:01:07,460 --> 00:01:05,880 success of direct funding websites I 17 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:07,470 know there's enough abundance and 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:09,240 support out there for the people who are 19 00:01:12,709 --> 00:01:10,890 slipping through the poverty crack or 20 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:12,719 suffering in the wake of a disaster but 21 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:14,729 if we don't call out institutionalized 22 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:17,249 corruption in such a key area as the 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:19,020 charity community we're letting 24 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:20,850 organizations like the Red Cross and 25 00:01:25,730 --> 00:01:23,340 United Way clog up the pipes of support 26 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:25,740 skimming more and more each time until 27 00:01:29,899 --> 00:01:27,479 we get to a situation like we had 28 00:01:30,919 --> 00:01:29,909 recently with the Red Cross in Haiti do 29 00:01:33,889 --> 00:01:30,929 you think they're gonna be honest about 30 00:01:35,389 --> 00:01:33,899 the next disaster probably not but 31 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:35,399 they're still getting funding I think 32 00:01:40,039 --> 00:01:37,590 it's a worthy exploration and includes a 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:40,049 few elements and tie-ins I definitely 34 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:42,329 wasn't aware of and of course our guest 35 00:01:45,949 --> 00:01:44,310 today John Hamer is really one of the 36 00:01:47,779 --> 00:01:45,959 most premier researchers when it comes 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:47,789 to the Titanic conspiracy and the 38 00:01:52,099 --> 00:01:50,130 multi-pronged attack from JP Morgan & 39 00:01:54,199 --> 00:01:52,109 Associates I'm glad we were able to talk 40 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:54,209 about that too so because the way THC 41 00:01:59,090 --> 00:01:56,459 splits up we did a half hour on these 42 00:02:01,339 --> 00:01:59,100 corrupt charities an hour on the Titanic 43 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:01,349 saga and then a swan song of charities 44 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,240 to close it out and I think all you guys 45 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:05,759 will get a fair dose of both threads 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:07,889 even though John is way more used to 47 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:09,810 presenting his work in the written form 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:12,300 I've been doing this long enough to help 49 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:14,010 someone make the best case for their 50 00:02:17,780 --> 00:02:15,690 work and that's what I try to do here so 51 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:17,790 thanks for giving us your ear and let's 52 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:18,080 do 53 00:02:22,510 --> 00:02:21,500 damn thing with John Hamer boom have a 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:22,520 drink 55 00:02:33,810 --> 00:02:28,370 in the smoke listen to the cast shiny 56 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:33,820 shiny spotlight but criminals on blast 57 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:38,020 the pinstripe man of morning and 58 00:02:47,550 --> 00:02:43,340 families of Finance dupe on Windsor and 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Rothschild the kids don't stand a chance 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:52,010 the kids don't the kids don't stand the 61 00:02:59,260 --> 00:02:57,170 kids don't stand a chance alright people 62 00:03:00,850 --> 00:02:59,270 sad as it may be we're well aware that 63 00:03:02,650 --> 00:03:00,860 most of the world's respected 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:02,660 institutions and trusted official 65 00:03:06,699 --> 00:03:04,730 stories would not be so ingrained into 66 00:03:08,290 --> 00:03:06,709 our collective consciousness unless they 67 00:03:10,449 --> 00:03:08,300 serve some purpose for the nefarious 68 00:03:12,010 --> 00:03:10,459 elite and their culture creation machine 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:12,020 so when you hear the names of the 70 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:13,970 planets largest charities like Red Cross 71 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:16,160 and UNICEF or you think about a story so 72 00:03:19,510 --> 00:03:17,540 ingrained in everyone's mind like the 73 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:19,520 freak accident that sunk the Titanic you 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:21,470 got to ask yourself if you're being sold 75 00:03:25,660 --> 00:03:23,810 a lie and in many cases you'll find the 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:25,670 truth to be exactly that and that's 77 00:03:29,050 --> 00:03:27,170 where the work of today's guests comes 78 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:29,060 in John Hamer is a journalist and author 79 00:03:32,590 --> 00:03:30,560 who's been setting fire to the puppet 80 00:03:34,870 --> 00:03:32,600 masters web of lies for some time now 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:34,880 most notably in his books RMS Olympic 82 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:37,250 which tackles the truth of the Titanic 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:39,680 sinking saga and a brilliant and lengthy 84 00:03:43,690 --> 00:03:41,450 conspiratorial textbook called the 85 00:03:46,449 --> 00:03:43,700 falsification of history our distorted 86 00:03:48,490 --> 00:03:46,459 reality that weighs in at a hefty 700 87 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:48,500 pages that sets the record straight on a 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:50,510 whole host of issues today we're getting 89 00:03:53,979 --> 00:03:52,130 creative with some truth-telling that's 90 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:53,989 a little off the beaten path but no less 91 00:03:58,060 --> 00:03:56,000 important it's an honor a pleasure and a 92 00:03:59,490 --> 00:03:58,070 bona fide tree dab here John my man 93 00:04:01,810 --> 00:03:59,500 welcome to THC 94 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:01,820 thanks very much Greg it's a pleasure to 95 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:03,410 be here thank you for inviting me 96 00:04:07,870 --> 00:04:05,690 of course man thanks for being here I am 97 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:07,880 really pumped for this one I like to do 98 00:04:12,370 --> 00:04:09,769 shows about topics that aren't part of 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:12,380 the conspiracy 101 introductory brochure 100 00:04:16,090 --> 00:04:13,970 that we all get at the meeting and this 101 00:04:17,770 --> 00:04:16,100 is going to be one of them it was kind 102 00:04:19,539 --> 00:04:17,780 of set in motion when I heard the news 103 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:19,549 that the Red Cross had only built six 104 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,229 homes with the half a billion dollars in 105 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:23,120 donations they received for rebuilding 106 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:25,490 Haiti after the big earthquake they had 107 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:28,820 in 2010 and I thought this cannot be an 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:30,820 isolated incident even the name red 109 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:32,530 sounds like something cooked up by a 110 00:04:36,570 --> 00:04:34,930 secret society and I kind of set off to 111 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:36,580 find anyone who tackled this piece of 112 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,620 the puzzle to a larger extent I came 113 00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:40,720 across your work and found several great 114 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:42,670 things to talk about but I guess to 115 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:44,470 start with the Red Cross this Haiti 116 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:46,300 situation is far from the first time 117 00:04:49,650 --> 00:04:48,130 they've double-crossed the people that 118 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:49,660 they claim they want to help isn't it 119 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:51,760 absolutely I mean it's just an ongoing 120 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:54,070 saga Greg give it to the Frank and I 121 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:56,110 mean this has been going on at least 122 00:05:01,290 --> 00:04:58,570 since World War two and probably before 123 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:01,300 then to the Red Cross were caught 124 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:02,440 red-handed 125 00:05:09,030 --> 00:05:05,920 as it were actually stealing from not 126 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:09,040 just individual Red Cross parcels but 127 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:11,290 honor on an industrial scale from Red 128 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:14,080 Cross parcels they've been absolutely up 129 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:16,720 to their necks in in the conspiracy 130 00:05:21,540 --> 00:05:18,880 world if you like for a long long time 131 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:21,550 and I suppose the Haiti one is just it's 132 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:23,020 just the latest in a long series of 133 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:25,420 stuff that they've got up to behind the 134 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:27,490 scenes I know you're gonna come on to it 135 00:05:30,270 --> 00:05:28,690 later but I don't want to single out the 136 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:30,280 Red Cross for any special attention 137 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:33,190 because believe me they're all at it you 138 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:35,710 know the Red Cross is just one one small 139 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:37,870 example but you can bet your life that 140 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:40,600 if it's got the label of a large charity 141 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:42,010 then there are all sorts of nefarious 142 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:44,620 things going on behind the scenes and as 143 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:46,030 I say the Red Cross is just one of them 144 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:47,860 yeah I mean your first clue should be 145 00:05:52,170 --> 00:05:49,300 that it's a household name and it's 146 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:52,180 lasted for decades that's because they 147 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:53,710 don't just let things like that 148 00:05:59,370 --> 00:05:56,890 stick around no no I mean the out 149 00:06:02,130 --> 00:05:59,380 getting a little bit deeper perhaps but 150 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:02,140 but it's safe to say that you know if a 151 00:06:05,550 --> 00:06:03,730 if a charity has been around so long 152 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:05,560 it's obviously failing and what it's 153 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:07,870 trying to achieve you know is it may be 154 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:09,250 a simplistic way of looking at it but 155 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:12,490 that's what I believe you know it's not 156 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:14,350 actually solving the problems it's meant 157 00:06:18,570 --> 00:06:16,090 to be there to solve because it's still 158 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:18,580 in existence so it's quite a paradox 159 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:20,650 really yeah I actually think that's a 160 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:23,440 great point and yeah in your piece about 161 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:25,420 the Red Cross you write that the 162 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:27,130 International Red Cross like the 163 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:28,810 International Monetary Fund and the 164 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,030 World Bank is an elite controlled front 165 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:33,280 organization whose true purpose is the 166 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:34,900 complete opposite from their stated 167 00:06:40,770 --> 00:06:36,910 purpose and I think that's really a 168 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:40,780 great way to sum it up can you give us a 169 00:06:44,589 --> 00:06:43,600 little bit of detail about the actions 170 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:44,599 that they they 171 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:47,330 performed that show that they are kind 172 00:06:52,059 --> 00:06:48,800 of in it for the opposite of their 173 00:06:54,449 --> 00:06:52,069 stated purpose well for example every 174 00:06:57,489 --> 00:06:54,459 time that there's a so-called disaster 175 00:07:00,909 --> 00:06:57,499 most of them as many of the listeners 176 00:07:02,139 --> 00:07:00,919 will know were far from being accidental 177 00:07:04,029 --> 00:07:02,149 they're that old most of them are 178 00:07:07,089 --> 00:07:04,039 contrived anyway but but take Hurricane 179 00:07:08,739 --> 00:07:07,099 Katrina for example the Red Cross always 180 00:07:11,679 --> 00:07:08,749 are always at the forefront of the money 181 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:11,689 raising to actually get the funds to 182 00:07:16,869 --> 00:07:14,990 supposedly aid the poor victims but 183 00:07:18,999 --> 00:07:16,879 unfortunately it's been proven time and 184 00:07:21,609 --> 00:07:19,009 time again that the money that the Red 185 00:07:24,939 --> 00:07:21,619 Cross takes in the audited figures that 186 00:07:27,939 --> 00:07:24,949 the Red Cross publish those totals never 187 00:07:31,629 --> 00:07:27,949 actually get put where they need to be 188 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:31,639 in other words to to actually alleviate 189 00:07:36,549 --> 00:07:34,639 the suffering caused by the in inverted 190 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:36,559 commas in in quote marks natural 191 00:07:40,929 --> 00:07:39,139 disasters time and time again they've 192 00:07:44,499 --> 00:07:40,939 been caught with that with the hands in 193 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:44,509 the in the tail so to speak and it's 194 00:07:50,109 --> 00:07:46,879 just monotonous regularity that they are 195 00:07:51,609 --> 00:07:50,119 constantly being caught out with things 196 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:51,619 like the Haiti thing that you mentioned 197 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:53,830 at the beginning and Hurricane Katrina 198 00:07:59,739 --> 00:07:56,449 something else was the the Japanese 199 00:08:03,129 --> 00:07:59,749 tsunami they absolutely blast the 200 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:03,139 airwaves with heart-rending pleas for 201 00:08:09,219 --> 00:08:06,860 blood for money but I can tell you this 202 00:08:11,409 --> 00:08:09,229 it never actually goes where it's 203 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:11,419 supposed to go or the right amount never 204 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:12,800 actually goes where it's supposed to go 205 00:08:17,019 --> 00:08:15,769 yeah you actually have in terms of some 206 00:08:19,689 --> 00:08:17,029 of the things you had mentioned some of 207 00:08:21,699 --> 00:08:19,699 the disasters that had happened I wrote 208 00:08:23,799 --> 00:08:21,709 down here a couple notes you write that 209 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:23,809 following the disaster of San Francisco 210 00:08:28,659 --> 00:08:26,479 earthquake in 1989 the Red Cross donated 211 00:08:30,449 --> 00:08:28,669 only 10 million of the 50 million that 212 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:30,459 they raised and they kept the rest also 213 00:08:36,670 --> 00:08:33,169 following the Oklahoma City bombing in 214 00:08:38,649 --> 00:08:36,680 95 and the Red River flooding in 97 most 215 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:38,659 of those donations were withheld as well 216 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,389 so I mean we're talking about taking 217 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:44,000 millions of dollars in donating maybe 218 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:46,430 10% just to make it look like you're 219 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:47,810 actually doing something and with this 220 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:49,639 Haiti thing building six houses it 221 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:52,130 seemed like they just took that greed to 222 00:08:55,809 --> 00:08:53,809 a ridiculous level because they're kind 223 00:08:57,460 --> 00:08:55,819 of off the radar in terms of anyone 224 00:08:57,850 --> 00:08:57,470 prosecuting them because they're in the 225 00:08:59,889 --> 00:08:57,860 club 226 00:09:01,860 --> 00:08:59,899 but they they got a little greedy with 227 00:09:04,449 --> 00:09:01,870 that one that one was a little bald 228 00:09:06,490 --> 00:09:04,459 absolutely I mean well their official 229 00:09:09,819 --> 00:09:06,500 position is you know their stated 230 00:09:11,410 --> 00:09:09,829 position is that they donate 91 cents on 231 00:09:14,199 --> 00:09:11,420 the dollar to the courses that they're 232 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:14,209 supposed to go to but in actual fact as 233 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:16,720 you say it's a lot less than that and 234 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:18,800 personally I would love to know where 235 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:21,200 that money is going I know where some of 236 00:09:26,410 --> 00:09:23,540 its going but it's a little difficult to 237 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:26,420 prove it of course but there are other 238 00:09:31,780 --> 00:09:29,120 instance of it being siphoned away into 239 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:31,790 into shall we say other less worthy 240 00:09:35,610 --> 00:09:34,399 causes shall we say for example well 241 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:35,620 let's talk about that but where 242 00:09:41,050 --> 00:09:37,760 specifically would you speculate that 243 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:41,060 the money is going well I guess it's 244 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:42,560 going into the pockets of the people at 245 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:46,930 the top yeah I hope I'm not being too 246 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:51,170 unkind by saying that but a little while 247 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:53,170 ago that the president of the Red Cross 248 00:09:59,680 --> 00:09:56,690 she's no longer now but dr. Bernardin 249 00:10:03,370 --> 00:09:59,690 Haley was actually openly accused of 250 00:10:07,180 --> 00:10:03,380 withholding funds and her arrogant 251 00:10:09,569 --> 00:10:07,190 response was that that they had to set 252 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:09,579 up a war fund they weren't withholding 253 00:10:15,730 --> 00:10:13,820 from specifically from any given 254 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:15,740 disaster they were sadly using them to 255 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:18,680 set up a war fund she said it is that 256 00:10:22,329 --> 00:10:20,510 it's evolved into a war fund we must 257 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:22,339 have blood readiness we must have the 258 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:24,380 ability to help our troops if we go into 259 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:26,480 a ground war we must have the ability to 260 00:10:30,579 --> 00:10:28,880 help the victims of tomorrow well that's 261 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:30,589 not their mandate you know she's no 262 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:32,480 right to say that it's not their 263 00:10:37,150 --> 00:10:35,240 business to start collecting money for 264 00:10:39,009 --> 00:10:37,160 future Wars that may not even happen 265 00:10:41,380 --> 00:10:39,019 they're supposed to collect money for 266 00:10:44,439 --> 00:10:41,390 disasters that are current and actually 267 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:44,449 deal with those not start a fund for 268 00:10:47,889 --> 00:10:46,310 something in the future that's not how 269 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:47,899 it's supposed to work I'm afraid and 270 00:10:52,689 --> 00:10:50,570 that's just so typical of the you know 271 00:10:54,910 --> 00:10:52,699 the the way the charities work that 272 00:10:58,449 --> 00:10:54,920 they're a lawn to themselves they're not 273 00:11:01,150 --> 00:10:58,459 really accountable enough to outside 274 00:11:03,819 --> 00:11:01,160 organizations the money just falls into 275 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:03,829 a bottomless pit into a black hole and 276 00:11:06,939 --> 00:11:05,060 it's never seen again 277 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:06,949 most of the time yeah I thought that was 278 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:09,380 actually a great little quote you had 279 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,180 from that previous president because 280 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:13,760 it's just an example of a little crack 281 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:15,710 in the armor we actually get to see 282 00:11:20,110 --> 00:11:17,510 through the lie a little bit yeah 283 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:20,120 another example kind of in line with 284 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:22,880 that that war fun thing was after 9/11 285 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,070 or during 9/11 they opened up the 286 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:27,680 Liberty fund and this is a great example 287 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:29,420 of the corruption because apparently 288 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:31,100 they got five hundred and sixty four 289 00:11:35,079 --> 00:11:33,200 million from donations around the world 290 00:11:37,060 --> 00:11:35,089 and only released about a hundred and 291 00:11:37,570 --> 00:11:37,070 fifty million and that's pretty messed 292 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:37,580 up 293 00:11:42,430 --> 00:11:40,010 that's exactly right what did the other 294 00:11:44,170 --> 00:11:42,440 400 million go I'd love to know but I 295 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:44,180 don't suppose we'll ever ever find out 296 00:11:50,829 --> 00:11:48,620 right I'm gonna tell us exactly so do we 297 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:50,839 know much about who started the Red 298 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:52,910 Cross or how they came to be that could 299 00:11:58,030 --> 00:11:56,200 maybe give us some clues as to how 300 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,040 dastardly they really are was this a 301 00:12:02,050 --> 00:12:00,320 disaster racket as you put it from day 302 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:02,060 one I 303 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:05,060 I'm not so sure actually I wouldn't want 304 00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:06,800 to go stick my neck out and say that 305 00:12:14,290 --> 00:12:09,980 much I think maybe at the beginning it 306 00:12:17,199 --> 00:12:14,300 was meant to be beneficial shall we say 307 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:17,209 in the event of emergencies but it's 308 00:12:20,650 --> 00:12:18,860 difficult to say I don't really know the 309 00:12:23,710 --> 00:12:20,660 answer to that to be honest yeah 310 00:12:25,420 --> 00:12:23,720 apparently another element to the 9/11 311 00:12:27,970 --> 00:12:25,430 thing that I thought was interesting is 312 00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:27,980 they asked for a lot of blood donations 313 00:12:31,449 --> 00:12:29,720 which is a little odd because who would 314 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:31,459 the blood be for a large majority the 315 00:12:36,670 --> 00:12:34,730 victims would be dead and of course for 316 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:36,680 them blood is a commodity that they can 317 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:39,650 sell but you also stated that they also 318 00:12:43,870 --> 00:12:42,170 use blood donations for things the 319 00:12:45,790 --> 00:12:43,880 public isn't privy to now we've been 320 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:45,800 down a lot of strange rabbit holes on 321 00:12:50,890 --> 00:12:47,870 this show so I'm curious what you think 322 00:12:51,730 --> 00:12:50,900 they could be using blood for okay well 323 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:51,740 first of all let me say you're 324 00:12:56,019 --> 00:12:53,330 absolutely right what you say what you 325 00:12:59,380 --> 00:12:56,029 just said I suppose what I believe that 326 00:13:02,620 --> 00:12:59,390 they use the blood for is is things that 327 00:13:05,110 --> 00:13:02,630 perhaps people would find at totally 328 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:05,120 abhorrent and that is satanic rituals 329 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:07,730 that kind of thing again I don't know 330 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:09,890 whether you really want to go down this 331 00:13:14,829 --> 00:13:12,050 road particularly or not it's a very 332 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:14,839 deep and dark hole I'm afraid if we do 333 00:13:18,319 --> 00:13:17,000 but I suspect there is that kind of 334 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:18,329 thing going on 335 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:20,639 I think most people are aware most 336 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:22,049 people in the conspiracy world they're 337 00:13:28,129 --> 00:13:25,170 aware that these people these elite at 338 00:13:31,309 --> 00:13:28,139 the top are well into satanic rituals 339 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:31,319 and and also on all sorts of murky 340 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:33,809 practices and I suspect that some of the 341 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:36,689 blood is certainly used in shall we say 342 00:13:42,619 --> 00:13:39,809 quite unsavory rituals yeah I mean I'm 343 00:13:45,139 --> 00:13:42,629 totally comfortable getting weird as 344 00:13:46,669 --> 00:13:45,149 much as you are but it is kind of that's 345 00:13:48,439 --> 00:13:46,679 where we get into that area where it's 346 00:13:50,689 --> 00:13:48,449 kind of hard to prove these are rumors 347 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:50,699 and whispers and speculation but if 348 00:13:54,619 --> 00:13:53,220 they're doing satanic rituals we've hear 349 00:13:56,809 --> 00:13:54,629 a lot of things about the pedophilia 350 00:13:58,669 --> 00:13:56,819 Network of the elite that kids get used 351 00:14:00,979 --> 00:13:58,679 in these rituals it makes sense that 352 00:14:04,129 --> 00:14:00,989 blood would as well I've also heard that 353 00:14:07,850 --> 00:14:04,139 the top top elite they're trying to 354 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:07,860 prolong their lifes and in the past when 355 00:14:11,539 --> 00:14:10,079 before they had the technologies of 356 00:14:13,449 --> 00:14:11,549 today where we're getting into the 357 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:13,459 transhumanist agenda they used to 358 00:14:18,289 --> 00:14:15,920 apparently do like full blood 359 00:14:20,419 --> 00:14:18,299 transfusions to try to restore their 360 00:14:23,379 --> 00:14:20,429 youth and that's another weird and 361 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:23,389 fringe way they could be using the blood 362 00:14:29,419 --> 00:14:26,639 absolutely I mean there's all sorts of 363 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:29,429 rumors are bounding about David 364 00:14:35,449 --> 00:14:31,589 Rockefeller for example is just turned 365 00:14:38,479 --> 00:14:35,459 100 only and they say that is ad blood 366 00:14:41,629 --> 00:14:38,489 transfusions and heart transplants by 367 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:41,639 the yeah by the bucketload to keep him 368 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:43,199 going whether that's true or not it's 369 00:14:48,530 --> 00:14:45,809 only speculation but it's certainly an 370 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,540 interesting idea it is and it's still an 371 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:50,399 interesting fact that they would ask for 372 00:14:54,259 --> 00:14:52,169 blood in such high quantities at an 373 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:54,269 event like 9/11 because it doesn't 374 00:14:59,299 --> 00:14:56,220 really fit what they should have been 375 00:15:02,289 --> 00:14:59,309 going for no I mean obviously relatively 376 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:02,299 speaking on 9/11 there were very few 377 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:03,480 injuries 378 00:15:09,139 --> 00:15:05,970 you know comparatively speaking and most 379 00:15:11,229 --> 00:15:09,149 people died as you said earlier so what 380 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:11,239 on earth did they do with all our blood 381 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:13,860 presumably they sold some of it but 382 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:17,220 again it's all speculation but it's 383 00:15:22,129 --> 00:15:20,429 quite an interesting speculation as to 384 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,139 as to what else may have been going on 385 00:15:26,989 --> 00:15:24,720 with it yeah it is and let's talk about 386 00:15:29,059 --> 00:15:26,999 the I guess the current president of the 387 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:29,069 organization a little bit Marsha Evans 388 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:32,250 do you know much about her dr. Walton 389 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:35,070 I'm sorry I don't to be honest we do 390 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:37,560 know her salary he wrote that in 2012 391 00:15:45,830 --> 00:15:42,450 that her salary was 651 thousand dollars 392 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:45,840 and per year and the total revenue of 393 00:15:51,140 --> 00:15:48,090 the Red Cross was well in excess of 394 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:51,150 three billion I mean you guys you can be 395 00:15:54,740 --> 00:15:53,010 a devil's advocate and say oh a person 396 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:54,750 handling a three billion dollar fund 397 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:56,310 should be paid well but I mean we're 398 00:16:00,530 --> 00:15:58,770 talking close to like six six hundred 399 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:00,540 and fifty thousand dollars it's a little 400 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:03,090 much and three billion a year if they 401 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:04,830 really were trying to do good think 402 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:07,050 about the amount of good that could do 403 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:10,020 on an annual basis yeah and that was in 404 00:16:13,820 --> 00:16:12,210 2012 of course so you know the figures 405 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:13,830 may have changed and certainly and 406 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:15,930 certainly we won't have gone down not so 407 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:18,470 sure so they're either similar or 408 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:21,590 they're out they are considerably more 409 00:16:26,660 --> 00:16:24,690 yeah six hundred and fifty one thousand 410 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:26,670 dollars is an obscene amount of money 411 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:28,530 for someone who purports to be the head 412 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:31,770 of a charitable organization to to earn 413 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:35,970 you know you would think that someone in 414 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:37,410 that position would have a little bit of 415 00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:39,360 compassion and say that I will do this 416 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:42,000 job for a reasonable salary I'm not 417 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:44,880 expecting that that the woman should 418 00:16:50,930 --> 00:16:47,610 should live on 20,000 a year or anything 419 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:50,940 but you know 650 1,000 I mean come on 420 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:53,460 that's taking me yeah taking the Mickey 421 00:16:58,190 --> 00:16:56,250 yeah that's a little excessive and when 422 00:17:00,860 --> 00:16:58,200 we're talking about these charities I 423 00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:00,870 see a real parallel with groups like the 424 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:02,640 Freemasons who are considered by the 425 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:04,199 mainstream to just be a group of good 426 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,910 old guys who get together for a couple 427 00:17:09,740 --> 00:17:07,439 of beers and are largely a charitable 428 00:17:11,870 --> 00:17:09,750 organization but then yeah what they 429 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:11,880 really seem to do is they use the 430 00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:14,160 lower-level members to actually go out 431 00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:16,350 there and do philanthropy and be a part 432 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:17,640 of the community and that's just a small 433 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:20,310 fraction of their actual wealth and then 434 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:22,650 at the top of the pyramid there they've 435 00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:25,199 got other agendas real goals of wealth 436 00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:27,540 and power at the top and I think so 437 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:29,790 there's a kind of a parallel with these 438 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:32,820 charities there is indeed I mean most of 439 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:35,250 the you know workers on the ground floor 440 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:36,930 of the Red Cross and many of the big 441 00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:38,550 charities don't even get paid they're 442 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:41,400 all volunteers and to be frank they're 443 00:17:45,710 --> 00:17:44,490 just being used I mean unfortunately you 444 00:17:47,210 --> 00:17:45,720 know I feel sorry for them really 445 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:47,220 because they don't even know what's 446 00:17:50,779 --> 00:17:49,110 going on above their heads they just 447 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:50,789 believe that they're working for a very 448 00:17:58,399 --> 00:17:55,260 worthy cause and you know they give 449 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:58,409 their time freely and for nothing you 450 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:00,480 know it's it's a sad state of affairs 451 00:18:05,390 --> 00:18:02,970 really yeah and also the people who 452 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:05,400 donate I mean these we so many people 453 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:07,320 are spread pretty thin yet they still 454 00:18:10,820 --> 00:18:09,419 want to give when something happens I 455 00:18:13,580 --> 00:18:10,830 mean you use the term in the book 456 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:13,590 emotional blackmail which is such a good 457 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:15,929 way of putting what what these media 458 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:18,570 companies do and of course we know that 459 00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:20,760 a lot of different arms of the 460 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:23,520 conspiracy squid work together and one 461 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:25,020 of those would be the media and another 462 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:27,450 one being these charities and it seems 463 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:30,120 like when a disaster happens the media 464 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:32,340 plays a serious role in making sure that 465 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:34,710 United Way and the Red Cross are the 466 00:18:38,899 --> 00:18:36,450 first and biggest things you hear about 467 00:18:41,419 --> 00:18:38,909 you also wrote that like on Yahoo's 468 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:41,429 homepage they took a spot out a banner 469 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:44,220 ad for one charity and they gave it to 470 00:18:48,020 --> 00:18:45,960 of course the Red Cross so this is a big 471 00:18:49,789 --> 00:18:48,030 circle jerk and none of this money is 472 00:18:51,549 --> 00:18:49,799 really getting where it needs to go but 473 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:51,559 by playing that role the media 474 00:18:56,330 --> 00:18:54,210 overshadows all these organizations that 475 00:18:58,820 --> 00:18:56,340 might be a little more honest yeah 476 00:19:00,740 --> 00:18:58,830 absolutely I actually think that in a 477 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:00,750 way they enjoy they enjoy laughing it's 478 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:04,740 as I believe it sounds rather trite but 479 00:19:09,169 --> 00:19:07,289 I actually do believe that they they do 480 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:09,179 have a good ol laugh about it you know 481 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:11,130 that about taking us the mugs you know 482 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:15,030 those mug punters yeah yeah and another 483 00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:16,620 element to this let's talk about these 484 00:19:21,169 --> 00:19:19,320 professional charity patrons guys like 485 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:21,179 Bono which I always thought there was 486 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:23,850 something off and fishy about Bono and 487 00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:26,850 him yeah you know rubbin elbows with the 488 00:19:30,649 --> 00:19:28,740 elite and kissing the Queen on the 489 00:19:32,419 --> 00:19:30,659 cheeks but yet he's some big 490 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:32,429 philanthropist and there's guy I'm like 491 00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:33,809 there's got to be something darker to 492 00:19:38,570 --> 00:19:36,390 this [\h__\h] yeah then also there's this 493 00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:38,580 Robert Geldof guy I guess he's another 494 00:19:43,070 --> 00:19:40,020 one on your side of the pond 495 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:43,080 yeah Bob Geldof I mean he was the some 496 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:45,929 some older listeners may remember him as 497 00:19:51,950 --> 00:19:48,480 the lead singer in the pop band the 498 00:19:55,370 --> 00:19:51,960 Boomtown Rats in the 70s and he's become 499 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:55,380 I would say like a charity entrepreneur 500 00:19:59,360 --> 00:19:58,620 if you like and he's always regarded by 501 00:20:01,310 --> 00:19:59,370 that 502 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:01,320 the masses in this country anyway as a 503 00:20:07,910 --> 00:20:05,130 sort of a hero a superhero who who looks 504 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:07,920 after the poor and needy and he raises 505 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:09,450 all this money for them you know good 506 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:12,270 old Bob but really is just in league 507 00:20:19,090 --> 00:20:15,270 with them and and one of the things that 508 00:20:22,670 --> 00:20:19,100 he organized was the y8 concerts in in 509 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:22,680 was it 2005 it was athirst years 30th 510 00:20:25,370 --> 00:20:24,360 anniversary of library I don't know 511 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:25,380 whether you're a bit too young to 512 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:27,330 remember all that Greg but it was all a 513 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:30,570 big charity done for the poor in Africa 514 00:20:36,290 --> 00:20:33,510 etc etc and they raised tens and tens of 515 00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:36,300 millions it was a worldwide thing mm-hmm 516 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:38,550 that was always one big scam as it 517 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:40,650 turned out because all they were doing 518 00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:43,440 was using the money to pay off the the 519 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:45,750 debt to the people at the IMF and the 520 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:48,090 World Bank that had lent the third world 521 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:51,150 countries obscene amounts of money and 522 00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:53,040 then completely hammered them with 523 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:55,590 interest rates and that's all that the 524 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,900 money raised was useful to pay off the 525 00:21:02,150 --> 00:21:00,000 debts to the to the World Bank and the 526 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,160 IMF basically yeah so with them 527 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:04,080 there was another ripoff that is one of 528 00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:05,640 the elements that I think is most 529 00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:07,940 fascinating and kind of complex and 530 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,590 something that people probably hadn't 531 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:12,000 put together on their own because I sure 532 00:21:15,410 --> 00:21:13,860 didn't but we have talked to John 533 00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:15,420 Perkins who wrote the book Confessions 534 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:18,420 of an economic hitman and we've been 535 00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:22,050 down the road of how they send you know 536 00:21:25,490 --> 00:21:23,880 these big multinationals and the elite 537 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:25,500 they send these people into third world 538 00:21:30,140 --> 00:21:28,290 nations get them to take huge loans they 539 00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:30,150 can never pay back get them to sell off 540 00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:32,040 their natural resources to corporations 541 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:33,380 who charge them for their own 542 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:36,030 commodities and then they get into such 543 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:38,250 a debt and we've heard that story but 544 00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:39,810 then there's another step to it the 545 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:42,660 second step is to bring in your own crew 546 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:46,410 of Bono and u2 and all these big-name 547 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:48,690 acts who do these huge benefit concerts 548 00:21:53,630 --> 00:21:52,110 to raise money for the loans that they 549 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:53,640 force these nations to take they're 550 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:55,650 basically paying themselves off and the 551 00:22:00,920 --> 00:21:58,050 poor people are left there still with 552 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:00,930 nothing absolutely and you know they 553 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,130 give us the impression that our 554 00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:04,320 hard-earned money is going towards you 555 00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:06,360 know starving children and in the back 556 00:22:10,190 --> 00:22:08,460 waters of Africa but in actual fact it's 557 00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:10,200 going straight into the coffers of the 558 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:11,830 IMF you know which 559 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:15,190 totally obscene in my view which is 560 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,710 absolutely outrageous to be frank it is 561 00:22:22,170 --> 00:22:19,600 ridiculous because they're they're 562 00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:22,180 basically taking the the charity of 563 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:24,280 people around the world who recognize 564 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:26,290 poverty and want to do something about 565 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:29,110 it and it just never gets there it's 566 00:22:33,780 --> 00:22:31,020 kind of like if a guy takes out a 567 00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:33,790 massive loan from a loan shark and then 568 00:22:38,970 --> 00:22:36,520 that loan shark then has a fundraiser to 569 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:38,980 pay off that debt it's just a guy you 570 00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:41,650 know having a party to pay himself and 571 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:43,240 that the poor guy is still sitting there 572 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:46,110 he never had anything to begin with 573 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:47,470 exactly yeah 574 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:50,470 just about sums it up I mean yeah 575 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:55,300 it's it's absolutely disgraceful really 576 00:23:00,480 --> 00:22:57,970 what's going on and you know the more 577 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:00,490 people that become aware of it then the 578 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:03,550 sooner it will get stopped but I ain't 579 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:05,610 old in my breath right now I'll tell you 580 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:08,590 this this geldof guy being another 581 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:11,680 musician I mean that is also interesting 582 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,470 because there's been a lot of musicians 583 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:16,240 knighted and you point this out in the 584 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:18,340 book to that know if that Geldof has 585 00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:20,110 been knighted so is Bono and then you 586 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,940 rightly followed up with the question do 587 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:23,440 you think this was for helping third 588 00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:25,180 world nations or the bottom line of the 589 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:26,980 IMF World Bank and British royal family 590 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:29,170 which is a great point and exactly it 591 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:31,030 explains the knighting of a lot of these 592 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:32,440 higher up musicians who do these 593 00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:34,690 concerts I I mean I like Elton John but 594 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:36,870 he was the go-to guy before Bono 595 00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:40,210 absolutely yeah they're all in it up to 596 00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:42,670 the little scrawny necks believe me and 597 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:44,740 any of them that have got to the 598 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:48,070 positions of high power that they're in 599 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:49,960 at the moment but they've only done it 600 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:52,900 one way and that's by serving me the 601 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:55,390 establishment basically mm-hmm I just 602 00:24:01,410 --> 00:23:57,970 cannot see any other anyway that it's 603 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:01,420 possible to do it and both Robert Geldof 604 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,450 and Bono have been accused of corruption 605 00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:06,000 in their own charities haven't they 606 00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:09,190 absolutely yeah Bono's charity which is 607 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:12,160 meant to place money in again in the 608 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:15,610 hands of starving Africans again he's 609 00:24:22,050 --> 00:24:18,250 been caught out withholding money and he 610 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:22,060 turned over about 12 million dollars not 611 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:25,570 last year couple years ago and I think 612 00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:26,770 remember the exact figures now but it 613 00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:28,660 was a tiny tiny amount that actually 614 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:30,820 found its way to where it should have 615 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:33,430 gone to get and gone to and the rest was 616 00:24:37,230 --> 00:24:35,380 just withheld and again because they're 617 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:37,240 so unaccountable nobody knows what 618 00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:39,580 happened to that money at all right yeah 619 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:41,950 there is no nobody's watching this money 620 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:44,260 in no there's no auditing or you know 621 00:24:49,050 --> 00:24:46,870 either internally or externally auditing 622 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:49,060 that the accounts of these these 623 00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:51,790 charities all right should be a serious 624 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:53,980 red flag in today's world but yeah you 625 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:56,590 you also point out in November of 2008 626 00:25:01,100 --> 00:24:58,570 Geldof was paid a hundred thousand 627 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,110 dollars in Australia for a brief speech 628 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:03,520 addressing third-world poverty I mean 629 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:05,220 there's a lot of irony there too 630 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:08,530 absolutely yeah yeah I mean why not do 631 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:10,570 it for free and put the hundred thousand 632 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:14,050 pounds to you know to good use serving 633 00:25:18,780 --> 00:25:15,490 the charity that he's supposed to 634 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:18,790 represent know obviously pocketed the 635 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:21,190 money that was his fee yeah but there's 636 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:23,650 also there's also people that believe in 637 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:28,210 and I guess it's not so ridiculous to 638 00:25:32,670 --> 00:25:30,370 believe it that is that the big 639 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:32,680 charities are just users used for tax 640 00:25:35,850 --> 00:25:33,340 write-offs 641 00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:35,860 so a lot of people like Geldof and bono 642 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:40,150 they can use their charities to write 643 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,130 off their own taxes so there's a lot of 644 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:44,320 sort of creative accounting going on in 645 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:46,570 the background I believe yeah definitely 646 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:49,390 there's that too yeah and you also say 647 00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:50,740 in your piece that the Queen is the 648 00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,620 patron of over 600 charities and you 649 00:25:58,350 --> 00:25:56,320 write do you really believe that this 650 00:26:00,000 --> 00:25:58,360 woman head of the most ruthless family 651 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:00,010 on the planet and personally responsible 652 00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:02,470 directly aren't indirectly for millions 653 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:04,900 of deaths worldwide in her own lifetime 654 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:06,790 actually gives a damn about starving 655 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:08,590 children or victims of the wars that her 656 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:10,540 and her ilk are actually responsible for 657 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:12,460 causing in the first place somehow I 658 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:16,090 think not yeah absolutely and what else 659 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:17,500 can I say I mean that just runs it 660 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:21,190 really doesn't it yeah yeah I mean this 661 00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:23,710 is this person is the richest person on 662 00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:26,980 the planet burn on and a doubt that she 663 00:26:31,650 --> 00:26:28,750 gives a single penny to charity to be 664 00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:31,660 honest despite the fact that she is as 665 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:35,140 you say patron of around 600 of them 666 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:37,450 yeah it's it's really messed up and I 667 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:40,510 had never really looked into this you 668 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:42,250 always hear people say hey be careful 669 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:43,630 with your money when you donate make 670 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:45,100 sure you know where it goes look these 671 00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:46,750 things up but if you look these things 672 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:49,390 up on the surface I mean the Red Cross 673 00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:51,280 the United Way they've got their asses 674 00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:53,620 covered they've got websites that look 675 00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:55,929 very official organizations that you 676 00:26:59,580 --> 00:26:57,790 know audit and then not audit but they 677 00:27:01,440 --> 00:26:59,590 kind of rank these charities and of 678 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:01,450 course they can be bought off just like 679 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:04,210 the FDA can I mean it's just a another 680 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:06,610 false layer of truth that they think the 681 00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:07,929 you know people think that they're 682 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:09,880 getting clued into but it's really just 683 00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:12,340 not that way no absolutely they're 684 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:15,040 really as I say taking the mickey and it 685 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:18,250 is a complete it simply scam basically 686 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:21,490 the whole thing I would vie stew anyone 687 00:27:24,270 --> 00:27:23,049 is if they want to donate money to 688 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,280 charity and there are some decent 689 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:26,080 charities don't get me wrong I'm not I'm 690 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:27,490 not painting them all with the same 691 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:32,820 brush and I would pick a nice small 692 00:27:37,169 --> 00:27:36,070 local charity and donate to that if 693 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:37,179 that's what you want to do if you really 694 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:40,090 feel that you do need to give money but 695 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:42,520 please stay away from people like the 696 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:45,610 Red Cross from the WWF and the United 697 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:48,580 Way as you say and even even places like 698 00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:51,190 cancer research and I don't know whether 699 00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:54,340 that will create a shock wave throughout 700 00:28:00,390 --> 00:27:56,620 the listening community by saying that 701 00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:00,400 but it won't here okay I would say that 702 00:28:05,730 --> 00:28:03,220 because we talked to Rick Simpson who's 703 00:28:09,419 --> 00:28:05,740 a guy who's big on the cannabis oil and 704 00:28:11,789 --> 00:28:09,429 Rick Simpson oil and he claims it's 705 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:11,799 basically a cure for a lot of things 706 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:14,110 cancer being one of them and we've also 707 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:16,150 heard of other people there was a guy 708 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:20,370 who had a sound base a frequency based 709 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:22,120 technology that was getting rid of 710 00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:24,340 cancer cells in the body so it seems 711 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:26,740 like there's definitely cures out there 712 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:28,690 that have been purposely suppressed for 713 00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:31,450 the profits of the pharmaceutical 714 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:33,160 companies for the profits of the cancer 715 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:35,290 industry and so it's no surprise that 716 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:38,020 charities like the Breast Cancer 717 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:40,210 Foundation they're just again they're 718 00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:41,950 just circled jerks of money for these 719 00:28:45,659 --> 00:28:44,020 people to make a lot of money and 720 00:28:48,220 --> 00:28:45,669 nothing goes into research because the 721 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:48,230 cures are suppressed absolutely 722 00:28:53,169 --> 00:28:50,330 you've got a bear man that cancer is a 723 00:28:56,889 --> 00:28:53,179 trillion dollar industry worldwide you 724 00:29:01,210 --> 00:28:56,899 know and and the and the raising of 725 00:29:03,970 --> 00:29:01,220 money - supposedly cure it is is another 726 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:03,980 massive scam I'm sad to say I mean and I 727 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:05,929 really hate to say that because I feel 728 00:29:10,899 --> 00:29:08,330 that I'm actually denigrating the work 729 00:29:13,149 --> 00:29:10,909 of a lot of decent people again at the 730 00:29:15,610 --> 00:29:13,159 ground level everyone that works in 731 00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:15,620 these charities a genuine sincere people 732 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,200 who are doing a great job and I'd be the 733 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:19,760 last person in the world to criticize 734 00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:21,769 them for that but why cause they're 735 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,409 being absolutely deceived on a grand 736 00:29:28,419 --> 00:29:27,200 scale right and it's just very very sad 737 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,429 the whole situation 738 00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:30,559 yeah and it's definitely important to 739 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:32,600 point out this corruption and it's not 740 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:34,730 just that it's systemic that it's part 741 00:29:38,769 --> 00:29:36,289 it's ingrained in these huge 742 00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:38,779 organizations we have to starve these 743 00:29:43,899 --> 00:29:41,480 beasts like it's not helping anyone for 744 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:43,909 the Red Cross to exist it'd be better if 745 00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,370 we took that 3 billion a year that they 746 00:29:51,639 --> 00:29:48,559 make in donations and gave it to an 747 00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:51,649 organization that was more interested in 748 00:29:57,639 --> 00:29:54,830 helping the poor incidentally that this 749 00:29:59,529 --> 00:29:57,649 is why I say give it to local local 750 00:30:01,450 --> 00:29:59,539 charities local organizations that you 751 00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:01,460 can actually see on the streets doing 752 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:04,190 some good and that you know you know you 753 00:30:08,289 --> 00:30:06,409 know where your money is going instead 754 00:30:11,169 --> 00:30:08,299 of into this bottomless pit this black 755 00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:11,179 hole which you know you never see again 756 00:30:15,399 --> 00:30:12,710 and neither does anyone else that 757 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:15,409 deserves to receive it and one last 758 00:30:20,889 --> 00:30:18,529 little piece of the charitable puzzle 759 00:30:22,629 --> 00:30:20,899 that I wanted to talk about before we 760 00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:22,639 went on to the Titanic is I lifted this 761 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:25,220 from your writings but you put for every 762 00:30:29,710 --> 00:30:27,620 dollar of debt cancellation to the 763 00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:29,720 international financial institutions the 764 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:32,120 g8 will reduce the flow of foreign aid 765 00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:33,860 to these countries in other words the 766 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:35,990 foreign aid earmarked to finance 767 00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:38,090 much-needed social programs will now go 768 00:30:42,610 --> 00:30:39,889 directly into the coffers of the IMF in 769 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:42,620 the World Bank can you elaborate just on 770 00:30:48,909 --> 00:30:46,850 the the point of the g8 nations reducing 771 00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:48,919 their aid I mean this is like a double 772 00:30:53,889 --> 00:30:50,980 whammy for these third-world countries 773 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:53,899 yeah basically it's just it's just what 774 00:30:58,139 --> 00:30:55,850 you've said every dollar every cent 775 00:31:01,960 --> 00:30:58,149 every pound every penny that goes into 776 00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:01,970 paying off the IMF debt is then reduced 777 00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:02,550 from 778 00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:06,270 amount that they provide into in terms 779 00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:08,520 of ongoing relief back again to Africa 780 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:10,140 which is which is the way it's meant to 781 00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:12,780 work so if they let's just use some 782 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:15,480 round figures let's say that a country 783 00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:17,340 in Africa anonymous country in Africa 784 00:31:23,290 --> 00:31:19,830 rose the IMF 1 million dollars it's 785 00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:23,300 obviously vastly more than that and then 786 00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:27,030 the IMF is paid back fifty thousand 787 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:28,620 dollars through some sort of a 788 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:31,020 charitable donation which was meant to 789 00:31:37,790 --> 00:31:33,930 go to the African people then the IMF 790 00:31:40,390 --> 00:31:37,800 then will reduce its ongoing aid to that 791 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:40,400 country by that amount or by that 792 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:43,620 proportion of that amount so that they 793 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:45,780 actually end up worse off the more money 794 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:47,970 that you give to charity and is funneled 795 00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:50,070 through the African countries into the 796 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:52,860 IMF the worse of those African countries 797 00:31:56,810 --> 00:31:54,390 and therefore the poor people on the 798 00:31:58,820 --> 00:31:56,820 ground are right sorry yeah I don't know 799 00:32:01,520 --> 00:31:58,830 if that's clear but it's it's quite 800 00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:01,530 complex it is clear to me but that is 801 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:04,710 worth pointing out because it is such it 802 00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:06,630 is a double whammy because it's like 803 00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:08,160 they're saying they're saying to the 804 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:09,780 world or like the IMF is saying to the 805 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:09,990 world 806 00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:12,210 oh well now that Africa has money we're 807 00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,100 gonna reduce the aid but they never had 808 00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:16,500 money exactly that that's more or less 809 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:19,470 sums it up in a nutshell yeah man it's 810 00:32:22,910 --> 00:32:21,570 it's definitely dark I'm glad we talked 811 00:32:24,170 --> 00:32:22,920 about I want to come back to some of 812 00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:24,180 this stuff and maybe a couple other 813 00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:25,920 organizations but I want to make sure we 814 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:28,350 get some of the Titanic saga into the 815 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:29,910 first hour because we have really yet to 816 00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:31,890 tackle that on the show with much depth 817 00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:33,780 and you've investigated this heavily 818 00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:36,840 written both a nonfiction book about it 819 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:39,240 as well as a novel based on the hidden 820 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:41,130 reality you uncovered so where do we 821 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,770 start with this one well just give you a 822 00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:44,880 little bit of background as to how I 823 00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:48,630 came to to write the write the books cuz 824 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,540 I think that might be interesting might 825 00:32:56,150 --> 00:32:54,240 not be but it might be yeah I think 826 00:32:58,550 --> 00:32:56,160 that'd be perfect what happened was they 827 00:33:00,050 --> 00:32:58,560 you've seen the presentation on YouTube 828 00:33:01,490 --> 00:33:00,060 the standard presentation that I did 829 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:01,500 about three four years ago 830 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,130 mm-hm and that this had about 160,000 831 00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:07,440 hits now so it's in white pop and a lot 832 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:09,150 of people have contacted me through that 833 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:12,600 well about what must be two years ago 834 00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:16,000 now I had a very strange phone call no 835 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:18,220 email first it was a Becky pardon I had 836 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:20,620 a very strange email it just said please 837 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:23,680 give me a call on this number so I 838 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,490 ignored it I thought no and then I left 839 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:29,440 it for a while and then I eventually 840 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:33,130 kept eating away at me and and this 841 00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:34,750 person emailed me back again and said 842 00:33:38,010 --> 00:33:36,400 please call me on such and such a number 843 00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:38,020 and I thought well what the heck what 844 00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:39,670 are they gonna do arrest me over the 845 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:43,060 phone you know I mean so I called the 846 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:45,220 number sort of era tentatively and it 847 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:47,710 was this lady and she said you don't 848 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:49,510 know me but I I'm a Hollywood film 849 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:51,280 director and I'm really interested in 850 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:52,720 this version of the Titanic that you've 851 00:33:56,790 --> 00:33:54,970 could have come up with and I said well 852 00:33:59,130 --> 00:33:56,800 first of all it's not exactly my version 853 00:34:01,380 --> 00:33:59,140 such you know I've done a lot of 854 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:01,390 research on it but you know I've been 855 00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:03,370 standing on the shoulders of the people 856 00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:05,230 who did all the original spadework 857 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:07,720 and I found out a lot of other stuff but 858 00:34:12,419 --> 00:34:10,090 it's not really like to call it my idea 859 00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:12,429 she said well anyway you you you you 860 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:14,470 know the story inside out I guess and I 861 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:17,050 said he will yeah pretty much and she 862 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:18,370 said well I would like to make a film 863 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:19,350 about it 864 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:22,570 so I said okay then she said but in 865 00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:25,210 order to get funding there needs to be a 866 00:34:28,619 --> 00:34:26,500 book first 867 00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:28,629 so she said how would you feel about 868 00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:30,580 writing a book about it first off and 869 00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:31,899 that she says we can take you from that 870 00:34:39,330 --> 00:34:36,340 so I set off on that tack and I be bird 871 00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:39,340 away for a few weeks and I got the basis 872 00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:40,480 of the book together and it was all 873 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:42,070 going on very nicely and I was having 874 00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:44,649 cut phone calls every week with her and 875 00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:47,860 and you know we were we were getting on 876 00:34:52,649 --> 00:34:50,440 really well and planning it all such etc 877 00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:52,659 and then about two-thirds of the work 878 00:34:57,150 --> 00:34:54,280 the book was about two-thirds of the way 879 00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:57,160 complete and she got back to me and said 880 00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:00,400 I've been in touch with someone who was 881 00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:03,220 interested in helping me to get some 882 00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:04,840 funding together but they say it has to 883 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,540 be a novel so so I've written two-thirds 884 00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:12,640 written this this nonfiction book 885 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,100 containing all the anomalous facts that 886 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:16,720 I knew about the Olympic story and 887 00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:18,850 trying to construct a story that I 888 00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:20,380 thought was more likely than the 889 00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:22,660 official story if you like and I was 890 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:23,980 simply hit with this bombshell well no 891 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:25,570 I've never written a novel before in my 892 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:29,170 life but with her help I actually wrote 893 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:30,160 this novel 894 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:33,130 which was the the fictional story based 895 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:35,770 on the what I believed was the real 896 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:38,890 story anyway - I'm sorry to ramble on 897 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:41,650 but I'm so very long story short nothing 898 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:42,850 ever happened with the film because you 899 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:44,530 could never get funding but it was a 900 00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:46,450 nice idea while it lasted for about 18 901 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:48,700 months and but that was the story about 902 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:50,890 how it came about that there are two 903 00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:54,010 books one non-fictional one fiction so I 904 00:35:57,570 --> 00:35:55,750 suppose in that sense it wasn't wasted 905 00:35:59,700 --> 00:35:57,580 effort because I got two books out of it 906 00:36:01,770 --> 00:35:59,710 and it was disappointing in the end but 907 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:01,780 I suppose it was only to be expected 908 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:03,550 Hollywood had not really going to fund 909 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:07,060 something that you know goes against 910 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:08,890 their version of events are they they've 911 00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:10,330 already driven home the official 912 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:13,300 narrative once before exactly once or 913 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:17,530 twice yeah yeah so yeah that's let's get 914 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,930 into some of the story itself I mean JP 915 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:21,760 Morgan I guess would be the place to 916 00:36:26,970 --> 00:36:24,310 start would you say yeah absolutely yeah 917 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:26,980 JP Morgan as a lot of people may know 918 00:36:33,690 --> 00:36:29,770 was a you know quite a ruthless 919 00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:33,700 character he was he was the yeah well he 920 00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:35,020 was one of the richest guys in the world 921 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:37,990 that in his day I mean he he was into 922 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:40,090 banking and was into railroads who was 923 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:43,570 into all sorts of different industrial 924 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:46,690 and commercial aspects and it had a lot 925 00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:48,490 of fingers in a lot of pies basically 926 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:50,350 and he was one of the most prominent 927 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:53,650 industrialists in the u.s. in the world 928 00:36:58,140 --> 00:36:55,870 if you like at the turn of the last 929 00:37:04,200 --> 00:36:58,150 century the turn of the 19th is the 20th 930 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:04,210 century and he had an idea amongst many 931 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:07,680 other ideas that a very hand that 932 00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:11,170 because there was such a great deal of 933 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:13,870 emigration and into the States from 934 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:16,570 Europe and other places that he saw an 935 00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:20,380 opportunity to build a pepping line 936 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:23,230 based on a different premise - - quite a 937 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:24,610 lot of the other competitive shipping 938 00:37:28,490 --> 00:37:26,440 lines that were going at the time and 939 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:28,500 I'll come on to that in a minute and 940 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:32,640 basically invested a lot of money into a 941 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:35,230 shipping line called the White Star Line 942 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:37,870 which was at the time before he bought 943 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:40,360 it was British owned and so he bought 944 00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:44,370 that line and he he brought it into his 945 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:48,700 shipping conglomerate if you like which 946 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:50,170 had already been established it got a 947 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:52,060 few different shipping lines but it 948 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:54,190 brought the white style line and into is 949 00:38:01,350 --> 00:37:57,610 is his little cartel if you like but 950 00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:01,360 wasn't a bit phrase and so what happened 951 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:05,800 then was he liaised with a company 952 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:08,200 called harland and wolff in belfast who 953 00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:10,210 were shipbuilders and he actually took 954 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:13,060 them under his umbrella as well and and 955 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:15,130 made them part of his conglomerate and 956 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:16,870 they were as i say there was 957 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:18,940 shipbuilders and and he commissioned 958 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:21,990 them to build the series of three liners 959 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:24,550 three sister ships that were meant to be 960 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:26,950 the most the largest and most exclusive 961 00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:29,680 in luxurious at the world that ever seen 962 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:34,380 and these were in chronological order 963 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:39,090 rms olympic rms titanic and RMS 964 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:41,710 Britannic the wind pit was the first off 965 00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:45,010 the production line and titanic was a 966 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:47,350 second and Britannic actually didn't get 967 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:49,510 built till after the Titanic had gone 968 00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:52,960 but so for all intents and purposes it 969 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:55,420 was about the two the two liners Olympic 970 00:38:59,250 --> 00:38:57,970 and Titanic and that's where it all 971 00:39:01,950 --> 00:38:59,260 starts to get interesting 972 00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:01,960 mmm-hmm geometry just continued from 973 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:05,560 there or sure yeah let's do the story as 974 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:09,400 as you uncovered it okay it's it's quite 975 00:39:13,050 --> 00:39:11,470 complex actually because there are two 976 00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:13,060 different strands to it which come 977 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:18,520 together and and and create a WoW moment 978 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:21,880 at the end but it's I'll do my best but 979 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:23,860 it'll mean skipping about from strength 980 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:25,150 to strength as we go along 981 00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:27,550 so please do bear with me and and if 982 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:29,140 anything gets confusing by all means 983 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:32,590 stop me and clarify you will do okay let 984 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:35,170 me just go back to so this was about 985 00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:37,930 1908 when the decision was made to build 986 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:40,540 the the the liners which were going to 987 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:42,250 be called the Olympic class of liners 988 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:44,740 and then a couple years after that and 989 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:46,450 we're moving on to another strand of the 990 00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:52,150 story here in 1910 there was a meeting 991 00:39:57,590 --> 00:39:55,060 as a place called Jekyll Island just off 992 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,600 the coast of Georgia on 993 00:40:02,420 --> 00:39:59,280 west coast of the sir the east coast of 994 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:02,430 the US which was basically a plan to 995 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:05,670 usurp the power to create money from the 996 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:07,170 American government and place it into 997 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:09,690 private hands a lot of people know with 998 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:11,730 that is that that was the prelude to the 999 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:13,590 beginning of the Federal Reserve Bank 1000 00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:16,530 right which is the equivalent to the 1001 00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:18,540 Bank of England in the UK which is a 1002 00:40:25,570 --> 00:40:21,660 central bank in which has sole rights 1003 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:25,580 for creating money mm-hmm however this 1004 00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,770 wasn't without strong opposition from 1005 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,680 certain mega rich individuals and we'll 1006 00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:34,560 come on to that later okay so they set 1007 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:36,750 off back to the shipbuilding strand now 1008 00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:39,060 they set off and built a liner called 1009 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:40,710 the Olympic which as I said was the 1010 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:43,140 first one off the production line and it 1011 00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:46,380 was a brilliant ship it was fantastic it 1012 00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,300 was launched in 1911 which was about 1013 00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:50,720 twelve months before the Titanic and 1014 00:40:55,610 --> 00:40:53,670 done about four crossings across the 1015 00:40:57,590 --> 00:40:55,620 Atlantic backwards and forwards with 1016 00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:57,600 great success you know everybody was 1017 00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:00,300 saying what a fantastic shape and Morgan 1018 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:01,830 was rubbing his hands with glee you 1019 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,510 could see all this Olli 1020 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:05,760 Oh his investment coming back to him and 1021 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:08,930 next to no time when something really 1022 00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:11,910 tragic happened not in the sense of the 1023 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:14,220 loss of human life but in in terms of 1024 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:18,090 the loss of Morgan's projected income 1025 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:20,430 shall we say what happened was on its 1026 00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:22,860 fifth journey as it left Southampton 1027 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:25,920 dogs in him in England went down the 1028 00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:27,870 narrow inlet of water call that 1029 00:41:31,550 --> 00:41:29,700 Southampton water to a place called the 1030 00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:31,560 Isle of Wight which is just the Isle of 1031 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:32,790 Wight we should just off the south coast 1032 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:35,850 of England as it approached the Isle of 1033 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:39,720 Wight it was in a massive collision with 1034 00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:45,510 a British Navy warship now this damage 1035 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:47,550 was a lot worse than they believed at 1036 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:50,250 first they got everybody off it safely 1037 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:53,250 there were no injuries or deaths and the 1038 00:41:58,610 --> 00:41:55,650 ship went back into Southampton Harbor 1039 00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:58,620 to be patched up but as soon as the 1040 00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:00,420 divers got underneath and could see the 1041 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:02,190 damage they realized this was going to 1042 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:04,730 be rather a bigger job than perhaps 1043 00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,350 Southampton could cope with because it 1044 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:09,780 needed to go into drydock and they only 1045 00:42:13,089 --> 00:42:11,390 drydock beginner 1046 00:42:15,609 --> 00:42:13,099 to take her was where she'd been built 1047 00:42:17,789 --> 00:42:15,619 in Belfast so they had to get her back 1048 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,799 to Belfast now it took about four weeks 1049 00:42:23,529 --> 00:42:20,720 just patching her up just to make the 1050 00:42:25,539 --> 00:42:23,539 short six hundred mile trip back up to 1051 00:42:26,829 --> 00:42:25,549 Belfast to get her into drydock 1052 00:42:29,859 --> 00:42:26,839 where they could do a proper damage 1053 00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:29,869 assessment and you know complete the 1054 00:42:35,529 --> 00:42:33,470 repairs that were needed now once they 1055 00:42:39,759 --> 00:42:35,539 got it back to Belfast which was no mean 1056 00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:39,769 feat they realized that basically what 1057 00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:42,200 they had on their hands was 46,000 tons 1058 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:45,140 of scrap metal now this was a real blow 1059 00:42:51,549 --> 00:42:48,170 to Morgan because he had put all his 1060 00:42:54,250 --> 00:42:51,559 eggs in this basket and put a massive 1061 00:42:56,529 --> 00:42:54,260 amount of investment into the building 1062 00:43:00,609 --> 00:42:56,539 of these ships and all the time 1063 00:43:02,609 --> 00:43:00,619 that Olympic was not on the sea earning 1064 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:02,619 money for him he was losing money 1065 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:06,130 massively and more importantly than that 1066 00:43:10,809 --> 00:43:09,260 the British naval inquiry found that it 1067 00:43:13,089 --> 00:43:10,819 was a win pick that was at fault for the 1068 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:13,099 accident and therefore they had to pay 1069 00:43:18,339 --> 00:43:16,670 for the damage to not only the Olympic 1070 00:43:20,349 --> 00:43:18,349 themselves in other words they couldn't 1071 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,359 make an insurance claim because it was 1072 00:43:25,029 --> 00:43:22,400 their fault but also they had to pay for 1073 00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:25,039 all the damage to all the repairs to the 1074 00:43:30,579 --> 00:43:28,460 to the battleship HMS Hawke as well so 1075 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,589 it was a double whammy for for Morgan 1076 00:43:35,319 --> 00:43:32,480 and you know although it was a rich man 1077 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:35,329 he wasn't a bottomless piss and he just 1078 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:37,369 couldn't keep chucking money at this 1079 00:43:42,609 --> 00:43:39,710 this project he had to find a way out of 1080 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,619 it right so that was that 1081 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:45,440 in the meantime Titanic is about half 1082 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:49,970 way built at this point and she is being 1083 00:43:55,779 --> 00:43:54,170 built almost identically to Olympic but 1084 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,789 they're actually making small 1085 00:43:59,740 --> 00:43:57,680 improvements because obviously with the 1086 00:44:01,180 --> 00:43:59,750 benefit of experience they've noticed 1087 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,190 things that could be perhaps done have 1088 00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:03,200 been a little bit better done on Olympic 1089 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,529 and so Titanic is being is like a super 1090 00:44:10,569 --> 00:44:08,000 Olympic if you like she looks 1091 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:10,579 superficially identical but she's got 1092 00:44:16,569 --> 00:44:14,240 all the all the latest gadgets more 1093 00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:16,579 niceties little bits of improvements 1094 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:19,430 that just make it overall a better ship 1095 00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:22,670 mm-hmm then eventually they get Olympic 1096 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,000 back up back on the sea 1097 00:44:29,370 --> 00:44:27,520 money again but there's something not 1098 00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:29,380 right with Olympic and they know this 1099 00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:32,140 it's not running well it's they're 1100 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,820 having all sorts of engine problems 1101 00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:35,440 they're having problems with the prop 1102 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:39,400 shaft vibration heavy vibration and then 1103 00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:42,130 a couple of wide transatlantic voyages 1104 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:46,840 later Olympic actually ran over a sunken 1105 00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:50,260 wreck just off the off the coast at 1106 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:52,030 Sandy Hook which is famous for something 1107 00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,170 else as well isn't it but yeah she run 1108 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,720 over a wreck and it and she threw a 1109 00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:00,640 propeller blade right which is quite 1110 00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:02,200 serious even though she had three 1111 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:03,940 propellers it wasn't the fact that she 1112 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:05,530 didn't have enough power with only two 1113 00:45:09,330 --> 00:45:07,090 it was the fact that the ship was 1114 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,340 unbalanced so she went all the way back 1115 00:45:14,570 --> 00:45:11,680 3,000 miles back across the water to 1116 00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:14,580 Southampton with only two propellers and 1117 00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:17,320 basically you know it shook itself to 1118 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:19,840 bits so when it actually got back to 1119 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:21,730 Southampton it was taken straight back 1120 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:23,770 to Belfast for further damage assessment 1121 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:26,290 and it was at that point that I believe 1122 00:45:34,590 --> 00:45:32,560 that Olympic was deemed irreparable okay 1123 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:34,600 so Morgan had a problem mm-hmm 1124 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:37,330 I believe that Morgan's answer to the 1125 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:41,170 problem was to continue to complete 1126 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:45,190 Titanic make her look like Olympic make 1127 00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:49,510 a Wimpy look like Titanic and switch the 1128 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:53,080 ships and then organise an accident for 1129 00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:55,810 Titanic or Olympic whichever one you 1130 00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:58,390 believe it was in order to collect the 1131 00:46:01,080 --> 00:45:59,680 insurance money because there's no 1132 00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:01,090 insurance company on earth would have 1133 00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:04,150 paid out knowing all the damage that had 1134 00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:06,790 been done to Olympic they knew that if 1135 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:08,440 because it was quite a common thing in 1136 00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:10,810 those days for just to sink a ship for 1137 00:46:14,910 --> 00:46:12,790 the insurance money but that was just 1138 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:14,920 doing it as a one-off when a ship had 1139 00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:16,690 been involved in so many incidents and 1140 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:17,680 there's a couple of other smaller ones 1141 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,030 as well like which I've not mentioned 1142 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:22,480 but Olympic had been in her short life 1143 00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:24,610 she'd been almost battered to death with 1144 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:27,550 various different incidents and so I 1145 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:29,650 think Morgan saw a way out to that and 1146 00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:32,980 the only way could do it was by swapping 1147 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:35,980 identities of the two ships and sinking 1148 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,230 Olympic as Titanic but I think things 1149 00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:39,760 went 1150 00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:41,830 that does make a lot of sense I mean 1151 00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:43,390 that's how you would get rid of your 1152 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:46,060 lemon ship and replace it with your 1153 00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:49,120 great untainted ship and yet claim that 1154 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:50,260 oh this one's the one we've been using 1155 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:52,960 forever exactly and it wasn't the 1156 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:54,610 precedent I mean this was quite 1157 00:46:57,630 --> 00:46:56,050 apparently you know I've done quite a 1158 00:47:00,090 --> 00:46:57,640 bit of research on this over the years 1159 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:00,100 now and apparently it was quite a common 1160 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:03,250 thing to do to do that kind of thing 1161 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:06,070 maritime insurance fraud was rife in 1162 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:08,920 those days and it was a lot easier to do 1163 00:47:12,570 --> 00:47:10,090 something like that in those days 1164 00:47:14,340 --> 00:47:12,580 because you know you didn't have all the 1165 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:14,350 mass media that you have today there was 1166 00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:17,530 no radio or TV or internet there was 1167 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:20,140 just the the written press that's all 1168 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:22,330 the walls so it was it was quite easy to 1169 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:23,770 cover stuff up like you know about how 1170 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:25,960 people say to me well how could you how 1171 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:27,250 could you do that people would know 1172 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:27,970 about it 1173 00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:30,910 yeah they would but you know there's a 1174 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:32,470 lot of other instances of things that 1175 00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:33,850 people might know about as well like 1176 00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:35,590 9/11 but they still pull it off right 1177 00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:39,430 and and those days it was even easier 1178 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:42,280 because as I say there was no mass media 1179 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:44,890 yeah man looking at the context of the 1180 00:47:49,350 --> 00:47:46,600 time I think you're right and it has 1181 00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:49,360 gotten harder over time for them to pull 1182 00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:51,400 off these kind of things but I do think 1183 00:47:56,190 --> 00:47:53,020 we still see a lot of moves from the 1184 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:56,200 same old playbook but so okay following 1185 00:48:00,000 --> 00:47:57,850 the two threads of this story if we're 1186 00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:00,010 saying JP Morgan was trying to kill two 1187 00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:02,140 birds with one stone with this event and 1188 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:04,150 that's one of the birds he wanted to get 1189 00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:06,130 rid of this junked up lemon ship the 1190 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,560 Olympic pass it off as the Titanic so we 1191 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:10,240 could collect the insurance money and 1192 00:48:15,210 --> 00:48:13,090 cut ties with that liability in one fell 1193 00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:15,220 swoop that's one of the birds talk to us 1194 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:17,830 about the other big bird here what else 1195 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:22,480 is going on will revert back now to the 1196 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:24,370 Federal Reserve side of things there 1197 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:27,430 were there were four major opponents of 1198 00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:29,980 the Federal Reserve Bank between 1910 1199 00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:32,080 and 1930 when it when it came to pass 1200 00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:35,590 through Congress and that was Benjamin 1201 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:38,110 Guggenheim there was a wealthy 1202 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:41,170 industrialist at the time John Jacob 1203 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:43,690 Astor was part of the Astor family were 1204 00:48:48,570 --> 00:48:46,690 also stinking rich and a guy called 1205 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:48,580 Isidor Straus who owned made his 1206 00:48:52,780 --> 00:48:50,090 department store in New York 1207 00:48:55,150 --> 00:48:52,790 and he was also a very rich guy now 1208 00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,160 these guys had not accrued their 1209 00:48:59,830 --> 00:48:58,160 fortunes through financial means and so 1210 00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,840 they were sort of cut out the loop if 1211 00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,760 you like in terms of what the financial 1212 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:03,920 reserve was going to do and just in case 1213 00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:05,180 there's anyone out there doesn't 1214 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:07,070 understand what impact the Federal 1215 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:11,090 Reserve would have by its instigation on 1216 00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:14,030 on the finances of not just rich people 1217 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:16,670 bought on ordinary people as well I'll 1218 00:49:21,730 --> 00:49:19,250 do a little sort of snapshot of that 1219 00:49:23,710 --> 00:49:21,740 just to put that into perspective okay 1220 00:49:27,550 --> 00:49:23,720 basically what the Federal Reserve would 1221 00:49:30,610 --> 00:49:27,560 do would remove the authority to create 1222 00:49:34,210 --> 00:49:30,620 and print money from the US government 1223 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:34,220 and put it into private hands now this 1224 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:37,130 money would then only be lent to 1225 00:49:43,330 --> 00:49:40,970 government not given so they had to pay 1226 00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:43,340 interest on that money back to the 1227 00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:45,740 owners of the Federal Reserve it was 1228 00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:47,840 some of the rich fat cat bankers white 1229 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:50,510 JP Morgan who had instigated it in the 1230 00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:54,710 first place and Strauss Guggenheim and 1231 00:50:02,500 --> 00:49:58,490 Astor and another guy who everyone's 1232 00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:02,510 probably heard of Lindbergh Lindbergh 1233 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:05,900 yeah Charles Lindbergh senior it was a 1234 00:50:10,780 --> 00:50:09,410 father of the famous flyer realized that 1235 00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:10,790 what would happen is that their own 1236 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:13,430 fortunes would be massively eroded by 1237 00:50:17,380 --> 00:50:15,950 this because they weren't they weren't 1238 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:17,390 part the deal basically they weren't 1239 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:19,910 doing it through any sort of benevolence 1240 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:23,450 or feeling of charity towards poor 1241 00:50:26,650 --> 00:50:24,770 people they were doing it for very 1242 00:50:29,170 --> 00:50:26,660 selfish reasons but nevertheless they 1243 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:29,180 understood exactly the impact that it 1244 00:50:33,370 --> 00:50:31,910 would have and of course that's come 1245 00:50:36,070 --> 00:50:33,380 true now because the Federal Reserve 1246 00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:36,080 before the Federal Reserve was brought 1247 00:50:41,110 --> 00:50:37,640 into being there was no national debt 1248 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:41,120 there was no income tax and the country 1249 00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:43,250 was very wealthy it was a you know it 1250 00:50:46,930 --> 00:50:44,510 was probably the wealthiest country in 1251 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:46,940 the world at that time the states you 1252 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:49,550 know the turn of the last century but 1253 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:51,890 ever since then it's probably the you 1254 00:50:55,180 --> 00:50:53,690 know the one that's most in debt because 1255 00:50:57,130 --> 00:50:55,190 of the Federal Reserve Bank and 1256 00:51:01,560 --> 00:50:57,140 intrinsic and the intrinsic way that 1257 00:51:03,569 --> 00:51:01,570 that works in terms of creating debt by 1258 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:03,579 creating money which I 1259 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:06,880 is just debt dollar bills are just a 1260 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:08,890 dollar of debt to the Federal Reserve 1261 00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:13,089 that's all they are right but it's real 1262 00:51:17,309 --> 00:51:15,640 that not just paper debt so anyway 1263 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:17,319 that's the background to that so these 1264 00:51:26,009 --> 00:51:23,680 four gowns were vociferous Lee opposed 1265 00:51:28,709 --> 00:51:26,019 to the instigation of the Federal 1266 00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:28,719 Reserve Bank and in fact aster was on 1267 00:51:36,029 --> 00:51:31,630 his way back from an extended honeymoon 1268 00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:36,039 on Titanic to actually instigate a very 1269 00:51:41,249 --> 00:51:39,670 big campaign against the the formation 1270 00:51:43,709 --> 00:51:41,259 of the Federal Reserve Bank and he got 1271 00:51:46,109 --> 00:51:43,719 all this campaign managers in place all 1272 00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:46,119 on the East Coast and he was going to 1273 00:51:51,809 --> 00:51:48,940 fund a massive campaign to bring the 1274 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:51,819 real truth to the attention of the 1275 00:51:55,289 --> 00:51:53,410 American people so that you know that 1276 00:51:57,509 --> 00:51:55,299 could be a popular movement against it 1277 00:52:01,709 --> 00:51:57,519 and pretended from happening prevent it 1278 00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:01,719 from happening sorry so Morgan was aware 1279 00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:05,099 of this and you know he was very very 1280 00:52:10,380 --> 00:52:08,380 angry about what these four guys were 1281 00:52:12,329 --> 00:52:10,390 doing and it's my belief that he 1282 00:52:15,569 --> 00:52:12,339 actually lured managed to lure three of 1283 00:52:19,799 --> 00:52:15,579 them onto the Titanic using various 1284 00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:19,809 means in order to sort of as I say you 1285 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,400 keep using this phrase but kill two 1286 00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:23,440 birds with one stone or in this case 1287 00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:24,940 three Birds ask the Strauss and 1288 00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:28,630 Guggenheim in the aftermath of getting 1289 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:32,380 rid of the RMS Olympic as well so it was 1290 00:52:36,329 --> 00:52:34,690 very much a win-win situation for for 1291 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:36,339 Morgan and I believe that is actually 1292 00:52:41,279 --> 00:52:39,249 what happened boom there you go man it 1293 00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:41,289 really is a great story and I think the 1294 00:52:44,939 --> 00:52:42,969 motivations are there I think the 1295 00:52:46,979 --> 00:52:44,949 evidence is there which we can dig into 1296 00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:46,989 more in the second hour but yeah just to 1297 00:52:52,589 --> 00:52:50,049 reiterate the timeline here 1908 JP 1298 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:52,599 Morgan buys the White Star gets that 1299 00:52:58,650 --> 00:52:56,650 whole shipping line in order 1910 the 1300 00:52:59,969 --> 00:52:58,660 nefarious meeting on Jekyll Island to 1301 00:53:02,579 --> 00:52:59,979 talk about how to get the Federal 1302 00:53:05,729 --> 00:53:02,589 Reserve into place 1911 they launched 1303 00:53:08,969 --> 00:53:05,739 the Olympic after many problems in 1912 1304 00:53:12,329 --> 00:53:08,979 they sunk the Titanic or the Olympic and 1305 00:53:14,849 --> 00:53:12,339 then in 1913 on December 23rd right 1306 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,859 before Christmas Eve the Federal Reserve 1307 00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:17,200 when everybody's looking the other way 1308 00:53:21,569 --> 00:53:19,480 goes into law so there it is in a 1309 00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:21,579 nutshell absolutely a bullet point for 1310 00:53:26,099 --> 00:53:23,980 every move on a five-year plan and by 1311 00:53:28,799 --> 00:53:26,109 removing the opposition to the Fed he 1312 00:53:31,770 --> 00:53:28,809 helped to enslave a nation and here in 1313 00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:31,780 2015 they still got us by the balls I 1314 00:53:35,309 --> 00:53:33,700 think that makes this pretty important 1315 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:35,319 and something that everybody should know 1316 00:53:41,609 --> 00:53:38,890 about yeah again I've got no actual 1317 00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,619 proof of this but I just think there's a 1318 00:53:46,289 --> 00:53:44,319 lot well I think I know there's a lot of 1319 00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:46,299 circumstantial evidence that points to 1320 00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:47,020 it mm-hmm 1321 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:49,900 I've done several years of almost 1322 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:52,569 full-time research before I before I 1323 00:53:57,299 --> 00:53:54,970 came up with this theory and again I'm 1324 00:53:59,099 --> 00:53:57,309 not saying that it was mine my original 1325 00:54:00,720 --> 00:53:59,109 thought and I'm standing on the 1326 00:54:03,180 --> 00:54:00,730 shoulders of other people to actually 1327 00:54:06,539 --> 00:54:03,190 take it one step further if you like but 1328 00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:06,549 it I've done a lot of unique individual 1329 00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:10,299 research that attends to point out my my 1330 00:54:16,859 --> 00:54:13,680 feelings in that way what's a well said 1331 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:16,869 men Wow John that pretty much does it 1332 00:54:20,099 --> 00:54:18,670 for us I think we did a great job of 1333 00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:20,109 shining the spotlight on these little 1334 00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:21,670 pockets of corruption that are still 1335 00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:23,710 fairly well masked so thanks so much for 1336 00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:25,900 taking the time my pleasure 1337 00:54:29,339 --> 00:54:27,700 before we do go would you like to tell 1338 00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:29,349 the people a bit about your books and 1339 00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:31,030 anything else you got going on where 1340 00:54:37,970 --> 00:54:32,380 they can check out other work you've 1341 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:37,980 done sure I've got I've got three books 1342 00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:40,690 at present that are available for sale 1343 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:42,670 the first one is one that you can be 1344 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,170 alluded to the falsification of history 1345 00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:46,240 which is almost like the conspiracy 1346 00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:47,880 Bible if you like mm-hmm 1347 00:54:53,789 --> 00:54:50,920 and the other two are the ones that we 1348 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:53,799 also mentioned the woman wants RMS 1349 00:54:59,039 --> 00:54:56,410 Olympic which is the nonfiction version 1350 00:55:00,990 --> 00:54:59,049 of the Titanic story and the other one 1351 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:01,000 it's got Titanic's last secret and that 1352 00:55:05,579 --> 00:55:03,849 that's just a little story that I in 1353 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:05,589 conjunction with the film director in 1354 00:55:10,799 --> 00:55:09,240 Hollywood and built around that same 1355 00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:10,809 true story 1356 00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:12,940 obviously the it's a fictional story but 1357 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,420 it's based on the true story and it's 1358 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:18,880 quite whimsical it's not very serious 1359 00:55:24,569 --> 00:55:22,569 you know but those are the three that 1360 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:24,579 I've got in publication at the minute I 1361 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:26,170 am actually working on one this is a 1362 00:55:30,279 --> 00:55:27,609 long project very much like 1363 00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:30,289 falsification of history was to 1364 00:55:35,049 --> 00:55:32,420 and it's called behind the curtain this 1365 00:55:36,339 --> 00:55:35,059 is an expose of the of the banking 1366 00:55:38,769 --> 00:55:36,349 industry oh nice 1367 00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:38,779 which got little bits of elements of 1368 00:55:44,259 --> 00:55:41,200 everything that we've talked about today 1369 00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:44,269 but it's you know it covers all the 1370 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:45,950 Federal Reserve and all the elite 1371 00:55:50,140 --> 00:55:47,690 families and all the rest of it and I'm 1372 00:55:53,049 --> 00:55:50,150 so intrinsically linked it's similar in 1373 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:53,059 some ways to falsification but it's it 1374 00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:54,529 comes at it from a different angle and 1375 00:55:58,420 --> 00:55:56,089 obviously there's lots of more new 1376 00:56:00,130 --> 00:55:58,430 information in there Gazza falsification 1377 00:56:03,069 --> 00:56:00,140 was written about four years ago four or 1378 00:56:06,279 --> 00:56:03,079 five years ago and but yeah that you 1379 00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:06,289 know if anybody wants to buy the books 1380 00:56:10,539 --> 00:56:08,470 they're available on amazon.com just 1381 00:56:14,650 --> 00:56:10,549 type in my name and I'm sure you'll find 1382 00:56:16,809 --> 00:56:14,660 them it's John Hamer H a very awesome 1383 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:16,819 yeah I'm so glad I stumbled into your 1384 00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:19,010 work I did buy your book and I found a 1385 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:21,740 lot of other little sagas that I've yet 1386 00:56:25,450 --> 00:56:23,390 to investigate no problem it was 1387 00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:25,460 actually very convenient because I can 1388 00:56:29,170 --> 00:56:27,529 tell that it's a huge book you can you 1389 00:56:30,910 --> 00:56:29,180 can see that it's set got seven hundred 1390 00:56:33,819 --> 00:56:30,920 pages in there and the kindle edition is 1391 00:56:35,380 --> 00:56:33,829 only six dollars so that's less than a 1392 00:56:38,009 --> 00:56:35,390 dollar for a hundred pages that's a 1393 00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:38,019 pretty good bargain yeah 1394 00:56:42,759 --> 00:56:41,150 well you know I did find a lot of those 1395 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:42,769 a lot of those little sagas that I 1396 00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:44,809 haven't seen before or haven't dove into 1397 00:56:48,190 --> 00:56:47,089 yet so maybe down the road we can do 1398 00:56:49,390 --> 00:56:48,200 another show and hit some of those 1399 00:56:51,089 --> 00:56:49,400 points as well as some of the things 1400 00:56:53,549 --> 00:56:51,099 that are gonna be in behind the curtain 1401 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:53,559 that would be great I'd love to do it 1402 00:56:58,839 --> 00:56:56,450 awesome well until then man thanks again 1403 00:57:02,200 --> 00:56:58,849 and keep fighting the good fight thanks 1404 00:57:03,549 --> 00:57:02,210 Greg Eureka people Eureka indeed 1405 00:57:04,210 --> 00:57:03,559 hopefully we all learned a little 1406 00:57:06,430 --> 00:57:04,220 something 1407 00:57:08,529 --> 00:57:06,440 of course we strengthened the Titanic 1408 00:57:10,509 --> 00:57:08,539 conspiracy argument in the second hour 1409 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:10,519 but I think we got a full explanation in 1410 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:13,250 the first and within the extra mountain 1411 00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,170 of info that John lays out about this 1412 00:57:19,809 --> 00:57:17,359 situation the thing I find most damning 1413 00:57:22,299 --> 00:57:19,819 that I'll point out is that at a time of 1414 00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:22,309 a coal crisis where very few ships like 1415 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:23,660 this where even supposed to be on the 1416 00:57:29,319 --> 00:57:26,210 ocean you have this ship that's from 1417 00:57:31,509 --> 00:57:29,329 another wing of JP Morgan's line called 1418 00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,519 the Californian parked 20 miles away 1419 00:57:36,190 --> 00:57:33,920 from the seemingly random and unplanned 1420 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:36,200 accident and what were they carrying on 1421 00:57:40,450 --> 00:57:38,089 board well it's just an empty ship 1422 00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:40,460 except for 3,000 wool blankets and 1423 00:57:46,270 --> 00:57:44,240 sweaters I just think that's too damn 1424 00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:46,280 on top of everything it shows that they 1425 00:57:51,069 --> 00:57:48,049 did have some people in place to save 1426 00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:51,079 some lives but of course not those key 1427 00:57:54,819 --> 00:57:53,150 opponents to the Federal Reserve and I 1428 00:57:57,130 --> 00:57:54,829 think it's a great piece of alternative 1429 00:57:59,680 --> 00:57:57,140 history and a way to break people into 1430 00:58:01,539 --> 00:57:59,690 these types of events if 9/11 is too hot 1431 00:58:03,309 --> 00:58:01,549 for your friends and family talk to them 1432 00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:03,319 about the Gulf of Tonkin incident or 1433 00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:05,510 this saga that we talked about today I 1434 00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:07,609 mean this one also provides bread crumbs 1435 00:58:11,049 --> 00:58:09,140 to walk them right into the Federal 1436 00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:11,059 Reserve ball of wax and if you get that 1437 00:58:14,650 --> 00:58:13,220 you kind of get 80 or 90 percent of 1438 00:58:17,049 --> 00:58:14,660 what's really important out there and 1439 00:58:18,910 --> 00:58:17,059 then these charities in this whole 1440 00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:18,920 putting third world nations in debt 1441 00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,630 coming in and having a big concert 1442 00:58:24,010 --> 00:58:22,400 blowout and selling trucks around the 1443 00:58:26,410 --> 00:58:24,020 world then reducing the aid of them 1444 00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:26,420 Kansas City shuffle kind of thing it's 1445 00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:27,440 pretty interesting to me 1446 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:29,359 and there's an article from Snopes that 1447 00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,890 i printed out that has even more 1448 00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:32,480 information on corrupt charities i 1449 00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:35,390 wanted to read it to you guys to add yet 1450 00:58:38,770 --> 00:58:37,430 another exhibit to the case and i 1451 00:58:41,140 --> 00:58:38,780 figured i could do this in the after 1452 00:58:43,569 --> 00:58:41,150 show as not to take up John's time this 1453 00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:43,579 piece ranks the most corrupt charities 1454 00:58:48,849 --> 00:58:46,609 and it goes a little something like this 1455 00:58:51,579 --> 00:58:48,859 the worst offender yet again for the 1456 00:58:55,809 --> 00:58:51,589 11th year in a row is UNICEF the CEO 1457 00:58:57,970 --> 00:58:55,819 receives 1.2 million a year plus use of 1458 00:59:00,010 --> 00:58:57,980 a Rolls Royce for his exclusive use 1459 00:59:01,990 --> 00:59:00,020 wherever he goes and an expense account 1460 00:59:03,789 --> 00:59:02,000 that is rumored to be well over a 1461 00:59:06,010 --> 00:59:03,799 hundred and fifty thousand dollars a 1462 00:59:09,130 --> 00:59:06,020 year only pennies from the actual 1463 00:59:13,059 --> 00:59:09,140 donation goes to the UNICEF causes less 1464 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:13,069 than 14 cents per dollar of income the 1465 00:59:18,279 --> 00:59:14,930 second worst offender this year is 1466 00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:18,289 Marsha J Evans yes president and CEO of 1467 00:59:23,529 --> 00:59:20,359 the American Red Cross her salary for 1468 00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:23,539 the year ending 2009 was 650 thousand 1469 00:59:27,490 --> 00:59:25,369 dollars I think we mentioned that she 1470 00:59:29,799 --> 00:59:27,500 also gets six weeks of fully paid 1471 00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:29,809 holidays a year including all related 1472 00:59:34,930 --> 00:59:31,940 expenses during the holiday trip for her 1473 00:59:37,029 --> 00:59:34,940 and her husband and kids it's a little 1474 00:59:39,339 --> 00:59:37,039 excessive and all this means that out of 1475 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:39,349 every dollar they bring in about 39 1476 00:59:44,829 --> 00:59:42,410 cents goes to related causes the third 1477 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:44,839 worst offender again for the seventh 1478 00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,510 time was Brian Gallagher president of 1479 00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:50,480 United Way he receives a salary of three 1480 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:52,190 hundred and seventy five thousand 1481 00:59:56,620 --> 00:59:54,770 dollars plus so many numerous expense 1482 00:59:57,790 --> 00:59:56,630 benefits it's hard to keep track as to 1483 00:59:59,560 --> 00:59:57,800 what it's all worth it 1484 01:00:01,840 --> 00:59:59,570 including a fully paid lifetime 1485 01:00:04,090 --> 01:00:01,850 membership for two golf courses one in 1486 01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:04,100 Canada and one in the US two luxury 1487 01:00:09,490 --> 01:00:06,980 vehicles a yacht club membership three 1488 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:09,500 major company gold credit cards for his 1489 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:12,650 personal expenses and so on this equates 1490 01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:15,890 to about 51 cents per dollar of income 1491 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:18,670 that ends up going to the charity causes 1492 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:21,170 fourth worst offender on the list has 1493 01:00:24,790 --> 01:00:23,090 also been in this spot before in fact 1494 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:24,800 every year since the information has 1495 01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:26,620 been made available from the start of 1496 01:00:32,620 --> 01:00:30,200 1998 amazingly here yet again the 1497 01:00:35,470 --> 01:00:32,630 president of World Vision a charity 1498 01:00:39,340 --> 01:00:35,480 based in Canada the position holds with 1499 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:39,350 it a salary of 300,000 plus what also is 1500 01:00:44,410 --> 01:00:42,170 supplied a home valued in the 700 to 800 1501 01:00:46,690 --> 01:00:44,420 thousand dollar range completely 1502 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:46,700 furnished completely paid all housing 1503 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:50,090 expenses including taxes water sewer HD 1504 01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:53,390 high speed cable weekly maid service and 1505 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:55,310 pool and yard maintenance fully paid 1506 01:00:59,980 --> 01:00:57,170 private schooling Forest children 1507 01:01:02,200 --> 01:00:59,990 upscale automobile and a $55,000 1508 01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:02,210 personal expense account for food and 1509 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:04,070 clothing with a hundred and twenty five 1510 01:01:08,410 --> 01:01:06,170 thousand dollar business expense account 1511 01:01:10,570 --> 01:01:08,420 and also get this because it is a 1512 01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:10,580 religious based charity it pays little 1513 01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:12,320 or no taxes can receive government 1514 01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:14,390 assistance and does not have to declare 1515 01:01:20,410 --> 01:01:17,510 where the money goes only about 52 cents 1516 01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:20,420 of earned income per dollar is available 1517 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:22,910 for charity causes also noted the March 1518 01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:24,410 of Dimes is called the March of Dimes 1519 01:01:29,530 --> 01:01:27,350 because only a dime for every dollar is 1520 01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:29,540 given to the needy which they source 1521 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:31,550 some links for and also if with 1522 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:33,530 honorable mention is the goodwill CEO 1523 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:37,490 and owner mark Curran who profits 2.3 1524 01:01:41,770 --> 01:01:39,890 million a year goodwill is a very catchy 1525 01:01:43,690 --> 01:01:41,780 name for his business because you donate 1526 01:01:46,180 --> 01:01:43,700 to his business and then he sells the 1527 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:46,190 items for profit he pays nothing for his 1528 01:01:51,490 --> 01:01:48,530 products and pays his workers minimum 1529 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:51,500 wage what a great guy so there's just a 1530 01:01:56,620 --> 01:01:54,290 little extra to think about a little 1531 01:01:59,350 --> 01:01:56,630 extra to know it does seem a little 1532 01:02:02,050 --> 01:01:59,360 depressing a little cynical but this is 1533 01:02:04,090 --> 01:02:02,060 what's going on so just be careful but I 1534 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:04,100 guess be optimistic about the amount of 1535 01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:05,690 people who want to help and are willing 1536 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:07,280 to share their income to help a brother 1537 01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:09,410 out it's not hopeless it's just that 1538 01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:11,230 we're giving it to the wrong 1539 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:13,150 they had a chance what have they been 1540 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:15,640 doing for the last three decades so to 1541 01:02:20,579 --> 01:02:18,010 me it's again somewhat positive in the 1542 01:02:22,349 --> 01:02:20,589 end to really look at this and say oh so 1543 01:02:24,059 --> 01:02:22,359 we're not really just leaving half the 1544 01:02:25,859 --> 01:02:24,069 world to rot there really are enough of 1545 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:25,869 us who care it's just a few people 1546 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,250 burning through billions of our dollars 1547 01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:29,440 and if we get them out of the way maybe 1548 01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,359 we can do something right another thing 1549 01:02:34,890 --> 01:02:33,039 John mentioned in the + show that I 1550 01:02:38,250 --> 01:02:34,900 wanted to mention was he brought up the 1551 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:38,260 point that when JP Morgan was trying to 1552 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,510 buy the white star line of ships it was 1553 01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:42,640 illegal for a foreigner to own a British 1554 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:44,680 shipping company but the elites just 1555 01:02:47,849 --> 01:02:46,210 rubber stamped it and made a deal with 1556 01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:47,859 him that if they ever need the ships 1557 01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:50,319 during wartime he'll give him up well 1558 01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:52,809 that sounds exactly like Sam Walton 1559 01:02:57,269 --> 01:02:55,270 founder of Walmart and his apparent deal 1560 01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,279 with FEMA Walmart agreed to turn over 1561 01:03:01,019 --> 01:02:58,960 some of the stores in the event of a 1562 01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:01,029 national emergency and got paid a huge 1563 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:03,190 retainer under the table who knows 1564 01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,770 that's what Jim Fetzer says and I 1565 01:03:09,029 --> 01:03:07,359 thought I saw a parallel there that was 1566 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:09,039 worth bringing up I've also been hearing 1567 01:03:13,470 --> 01:03:11,410 about this AI component Jade helm I 1568 01:03:15,299 --> 01:03:13,480 might just have to have someone on about 1569 01:03:18,089 --> 01:03:15,309 it but some are saying that this whole 1570 01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,099 operation might be a test of AI control 1571 01:03:21,779 --> 01:03:19,839 for a military operation 1572 01:03:23,490 --> 01:03:21,789 it's a thread that's kind of new to me I 1573 01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:23,500 have to look more into it but it 1574 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:24,849 definitely freaks me out a little bit 1575 01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:26,770 and kind of like a real-life Ultron 1576 01:03:32,490 --> 01:03:30,430 Skynet scenario I don't know I could do 1577 01:03:34,109 --> 01:03:32,500 this all day but I'm just the stupid 1578 01:03:36,359 --> 01:03:34,119 stoner host the guests are the real 1579 01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:36,369 stars of the show thanks to every one of 1580 01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:38,559 them and all of you that's it from me 1581 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:40,750 people do what you do and enjoy the 1582 01:03:44,279 --> 01:03:42,160 little extra ammunition for your 1583 01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:44,289 conspiratorial repertoire that you got 1584 01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:46,420 here today and I'll see you soon enough 1585 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:49,089 your move banking families Triple Crown 1586 01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:51,130 controllers and Morgan align monsters of 1587 01:04:02,359 --> 01:03:56,470 financial tyranny your frickin move have 1588 01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:02,369 a drink in the smoke listen to the cast 1589 01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:07,839 shiny shiny spotlight but criminal zone 1590 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:13,020 blast the pinstripe man of morning and 1591 01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:18,490 families of Finance dupe on Windsor and 1592 01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:23,560 child the kids don't stand a chance the 1593 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:27,310 kids don't the kids don't stand the kids 1594 01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:30,730 don't stand a chance I said the kids 1595 01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:34,150 don't the kids don't stand the kids 1596 01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:38,470 don't stand a chance we're looking for 1597 01:04:47,940 --> 01:04:43,960 the answer the questions never asked so 1598 01:04:53,220 --> 01:04:47,950 we come to the car wood for the higher 1599 01:04:58,980 --> 01:04:53,230 side chats the Pinstripe man of morning 1600 01:05:02,820 --> 01:04:58,990 and families of Finance do pawn Windsor 1601 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:02,830 and Rothschild the kids don't stand a 1602 01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:07,090 chance the kids don't the kids don't 1603 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:10,630 stand the kids don't stand a chance I 1604 01:05:31,890 --> 01:05:14,410 said the kids don't the kids don't stand 1605 01:05:38,060 --> 01:05:31,900 the kids don't stand a chance involved 1606 01:05:43,050 --> 01:05:38,070 in shady business we try to get a glance 1607 01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:43,060 we're working on the numbers resistance 1608 01:05:53,010 --> 01:05:47,440 must advance the pinstripe man of 1609 01:05:56,910 --> 01:05:53,020 morning and families of Finance do pawn 1610 01:06:01,500 --> 01:05:56,920 Windsor and Rothschild the kids don't 1611 01:06:05,470 --> 01:06:01,510 stand a chance the kids don't the kids 1612 01:06:08,770 --> 01:06:05,480 don't stand the kids don't stand 1613 01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:08,780 I said the kids don't the kids don't 1614 01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:13,280 stand the kids don't stand a chance the 1615 01:06:20,410 --> 01:06:17,030 kids don't the kids don't stand the kids 1616 01:06:23,860 --> 01:06:20,420 don't stand a chance I said the kids 1617 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:23,870 don't the kids don't stand the kids 1618 01:06:33,370 --> 01:06:31,490 don't stand a chance as you mop up the 1619 01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,380 remnants of your melted mine 1620 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:35,200 consider this the high-quality 1621 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:37,610 commercial free show you just enjoyed 1622 01:06:43,330 --> 01:06:41,450 it's what we call THC free but you can 1623 01:06:45,250 --> 01:06:43,340 spend twice as much time with Greg Carl 1624 01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:45,260 Wood and all his great guests by 1625 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:46,880 becoming a member of the higher side 1626 01:06:52,450 --> 01:06:49,370 chats elite for just five dollars and 1627 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:52,460 you'll get the 5 extended to Ellen 1628 01:06:56,860 --> 01:06:54,050 episodes that come out each month 1629 01:06:59,170 --> 01:06:56,870 because an honest open-minded and 1630 01:07:01,570 --> 01:06:59,180 uncensored 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